I wrote a statement on TH in the Eanna thread and strangely Tanza felt compelled to answer.
It may be an simple assumption, why she did it, because after all it´s not important, if there´s no truth to it, right?
But back in the day, when Tanza spoke up, people usually hit a spot:
So here goes the second part of the conversation:
First off, we know TH in "untouchable" in certain terms and i am not necessarily referring to PvP.
Second, they have very good, capable players at PvP.
Third, ppl can look up the sirothe server forum about the erenor skills of trash talk on TH´s side, but if you wanna discuss it on more private terms, feel free to join an alternative to the AA/Reddit forums - see signature.
Why do ppl always assume one is getting upset or even angry when they have a different opinion. Especially someone with your educated background.Tanza;2626356 wrote:Interesting salty viewpoint
It´s a good example how normal decent people turn arrogant an beyond in TH.
This is the best joke i have heard so far - in AA. Made me laugh really hard. Got me a coffee and smoke afterwards.Tanza;2626356 wrote: PF are the masters of propaganda, in game and on the forums. They had some decent ppl, but also a lot who played for the trash talk more than anything else, so we switched off to them. PvP was not fun against them, this was nothing to do with dying or losing but the trash spoilt it.
TH is, albeit skilled in it, the most disrepectful and disgusting bunch of players when it comes to lies.
Edit: It´s part of the charm of AA though, that Game of Thrones shadowplay. Or drama as most call it. In a game there´s just a degree of decency one should not cross.
Especially that guy that created these meme´s all the time. What was his name again? French guy. Dunno. If one could get a certification on (trying to) lying he´d be it.
Admittetly, this resulted in the Haranya faction ripping themselves apart over carefully placed rumors and unrest about who´s working with TH.
Nobody trusted anybody at that point. That was, when TH was at their strongest.
What repeated each time, however, when a guild challenged you, like CRB, PF and LC, there was much whine to the cheese on your farmland.
Then why is it everytime, not just the nation, you had a challenger you boosted numbers in an attempt to gain supremacy again?Tanza;2626356 wrote: TH kept numbers down to 45 for nearly two years (a lot less for most of it, often only 15 active members), and only recruited more when we decided to try Levi and then form a nation. We did not leave due to challenge, we left due to no challenge.
I mean - it´s a fair concept. Just a boring one. You never opted for a playing style (like most free farm guilds) that could result in you being soundly defeated - like in loosing the nation for good or being denied bosses at a regular basis.
In that regard, you represent the average PvP playerbase, that talks about wanting to have PvP all the time, but when they get it easily get outraged.
To be fair - you did organize PvP events with guilds like LC, basically planned dominions.
You do like those. PvP fights where you have no gold to loose.
So you left after you had no more challenge. To a degree i can believe that, even for PvP centric players that don´t want a real challenge, just dominance, farming gold can get a bit boring.
The other side of the coin is and PF is the best example here, you actively avoided PvP, if you could, where there was a possibility for you to loose (gold).
TH is kinda like a sect here. The front (wo)man does, most of the time, a public relations job and is somewhat reasonable, while not answering questions to matters "behind the scenes".Tanza;2626356 wrote: Putting up a challenge, now that's where this gets funny. The only guild that gave us anything serious was Laughing Coffin and we had a lot of good pvp with/against them, including 6 hour contests, and the battle for Growgate tower (awsome day). I don't remember calling the rest of you potato's, quitters maybe.
Then your average member, even if previously a decent person you could hang out with, starts to berate players, even former friends with an attitude that´s beyond description.
It´s kinda like you brainwash ppl - which would apply to a sect.
That´s right. It´s unlikely TH will ever break down on itself completely.Tanza;2626356 wrote: The last comment is probably the funniest of them all. You are referring to a guild that's been going since the first few months of release.
But you had your ups and downs nevertheless. Though, sad news for Taiver maybe, that on Sirothe after you created a nation, you had even more gold incentive to stay.
There are exceptions to the gold related memberships, Peru and Masama come to mind.
Are we afraid of history yet?Tanza;2626356 wrote: What I don't get is why you drag Sirothe and history into this discussion at all. This post was on Eanna, move along.
It really doesn´t hurt you that people on Eanna know your story or that it does give away some secret tactics.
I mean - you´re using that old stuff all over again. Who can blame you? Never change a running system.
Tanza;2626356 wrote: "You may experience extreme thirst, nausea, dizziness, stomach cramps, vomiting and diarrhea as your system is unable to rid itself of excess sodium". Take care.
I take it that´s a futile attempt at an insult and yet another reference to salt. Whereas "salt" is just a different opinion, that you can´t handle as much as competition.